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		<title>By: Blue Light</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/waterways/2008/10/03/what-will-these-little-fish-eat-if-not-feet/comment-page-1/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of my comment is summed up in the following quote (I believe by Edward Abbey):

A government&#039;s level of corruption is directly proportional to the number of laws it has on the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of my comment is summed up in the following quote (I believe by Edward Abbey):</p>
<p>A government&#8217;s level of corruption is directly proportional to the number of laws it has on the books.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating...
These fish are used for psoriasis and other skin disease...taking off the dead layers of skin... hard to believe.  
Psoriasis can be disfiguring and painful and usually hits the kids...not a joke.

I once knew a woman who had psoriasis on her scalp.  
It would occasionally creep down her face.  She told me she didn&#039;t go out of her house when it flared...that people stared and worried that it was contagious.  She said she felt ostracized.  

She didn&#039;t say it was painful..it looked painful.

Interesting concept...I wonder what our U.S./KC dermatologists have to say?  
Would they or have they suggested patients use of the fish at home?
What would they be leery about...if anything?

Curious...because I know people with many of the diseases the fish are supposed to help.


&quot;...Doctor Fishes

SIR,_Dr Warwick and Dr Warwick (Nov 4 p 1093) are sceptial about the &quot;doktor fish of Kangul&quot;. The species of fish have been identified. There are two types, both being members of the Cyprinidac family adapted to warm miliue 12 - namely, &quot;strikers&quot; (Cyprinion macrostomus macrostomus) with a terminal mouth and with a terminal mouth and &quot;lickers&quot; (Garra rufa obtusa) with a ventral mouth. (The &quot;jabber&quot; is an immature striker, losing its lateral spots during maturation.) Both fish are omnivorous, a well-known feature of Cyprinidae. The orientation of inadeguate amounts of phytoplankton and zooplanktons caused by high water temperatures. The fish prefer aflected to healthy skin simply because it is easy to nibble at this surface . Some biochemical properties of fish in relation to the high temperature of water have also been investigated.

The presence of a high level of selenium (1.3 ppm) in water, topical application of which element is beneficial in some skin dieases, is an importand factor. The fish may, by softening the psoriatic plague, clear away the scale and expose the lession to water and sunlight.

Wide interest in the &quot;doctor fish&quot; has made people with neurological, rheumatic and skin diseases other than psoriasis visit this hotspring to immerse themselves in its pools. We are grateful for the mention of the doctor fish of Kangal (Sivas), Turkey.

Deparment of Internal Medicine.
Faculty of Medicine.
Cumhuriyet University.
Sivas, Turkey

Deparment of Biology. LEVENT ÜNDAR
Faculty of Sciense and Art. M.ALI AKPINAR
Cumhuriyet University ATILLA YANIKOGLU&quot;

Sharon O&#039;Hara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating&#8230;<br />
These fish are used for psoriasis and other skin disease&#8230;taking off the dead layers of skin&#8230; hard to believe.<br />
Psoriasis can be disfiguring and painful and usually hits the kids&#8230;not a joke.</p>
<p>I once knew a woman who had psoriasis on her scalp.<br />
It would occasionally creep down her face.  She told me she didn&#8217;t go out of her house when it flared&#8230;that people stared and worried that it was contagious.  She said she felt ostracized.  </p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t say it was painful..it looked painful.</p>
<p>Interesting concept&#8230;I wonder what our U.S./KC dermatologists have to say?<br />
Would they or have they suggested patients use of the fish at home?<br />
What would they be leery about&#8230;if anything?</p>
<p>Curious&#8230;because I know people with many of the diseases the fish are supposed to help.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Doctor Fishes</p>
<p>SIR,_Dr Warwick and Dr Warwick (Nov 4 p 1093) are sceptial about the &#8220;doktor fish of Kangul&#8221;. The species of fish have been identified. There are two types, both being members of the Cyprinidac family adapted to warm miliue 12 &#8211; namely, &#8220;strikers&#8221; (Cyprinion macrostomus macrostomus) with a terminal mouth and with a terminal mouth and &#8220;lickers&#8221; (Garra rufa obtusa) with a ventral mouth. (The &#8220;jabber&#8221; is an immature striker, losing its lateral spots during maturation.) Both fish are omnivorous, a well-known feature of Cyprinidae. The orientation of inadeguate amounts of phytoplankton and zooplanktons caused by high water temperatures. The fish prefer aflected to healthy skin simply because it is easy to nibble at this surface . Some biochemical properties of fish in relation to the high temperature of water have also been investigated.</p>
<p>The presence of a high level of selenium (1.3 ppm) in water, topical application of which element is beneficial in some skin dieases, is an importand factor. The fish may, by softening the psoriatic plague, clear away the scale and expose the lession to water and sunlight.</p>
<p>Wide interest in the &#8220;doctor fish&#8221; has made people with neurological, rheumatic and skin diseases other than psoriasis visit this hotspring to immerse themselves in its pools. We are grateful for the mention of the doctor fish of Kangal (Sivas), Turkey.</p>
<p>Deparment of Internal Medicine.<br />
Faculty of Medicine.<br />
Cumhuriyet University.<br />
Sivas, Turkey</p>
<p>Deparment of Biology. LEVENT ÜNDAR<br />
Faculty of Sciense and Art. M.ALI AKPINAR<br />
Cumhuriyet University ATILLA YANIKOGLU&#8221;</p>
<p>Sharon O&#8217;Hara</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The founding fathers of the day didn&#039;t bathe but once a month or so...the little fish might have died from the experience.

Why would fish be more liable to spread disease than live leeches used on live bodies in medicine today?

&quot;... Indications for treatment with medicinal leeches:
- cardiovascular diseases, including essential hypertension and ischemia disease, phlebogene diseases of the lower extremities;
- chronic bronchitis, pneumonia, bronchial asthma;
- gastrointestinal tract diseases (hepatitis, cholecystitis, pancreatitis, stomach ulcer);
- ENT diseases;
- paradontosis and other teeth diseases;
- urological diseases;
- male sterility;
- skin diseases (neurodermatitis, psoriasis, eczema, herpes);
- gynaecological disorders (commissural processes in the small pelvis, female sterility, chronic adnexitis, parametritis, endometriosis, fibromastopathy);
- systemic diseases (rheumatic arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus, scleroderma);
- osteochondrosis and radiculitis;
- eyes diseases, including glaucoma;
- infantile cerebral paralysis (ICP) and other diseases....&quot;
http://www.leeches.biz/leech-hirudotherapy.htm

Does Kitsap County have doctor leech therapy?
As I see it...Sharon O&#039;Hara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The founding fathers of the day didn&#8217;t bathe but once a month or so&#8230;the little fish might have died from the experience.</p>
<p>Why would fish be more liable to spread disease than live leeches used on live bodies in medicine today?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; Indications for treatment with medicinal leeches:<br />
- cardiovascular diseases, including essential hypertension and ischemia disease, phlebogene diseases of the lower extremities;<br />
- chronic bronchitis, pneumonia, bronchial asthma;<br />
- gastrointestinal tract diseases (hepatitis, cholecystitis, pancreatitis, stomach ulcer);<br />
- ENT diseases;<br />
- paradontosis and other teeth diseases;<br />
- urological diseases;<br />
- male sterility;<br />
- skin diseases (neurodermatitis, psoriasis, eczema, herpes);<br />
- gynaecological disorders (commissural processes in the small pelvis, female sterility, chronic adnexitis, parametritis, endometriosis, fibromastopathy);<br />
- systemic diseases (rheumatic arthritis, systemic lupus erythematosus, scleroderma);<br />
- osteochondrosis and radiculitis;<br />
- eyes diseases, including glaucoma;<br />
- infantile cerebral paralysis (ICP) and other diseases&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.leeches.biz/leech-hirudotherapy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.leeches.biz/leech-hirudotherapy.htm</a></p>
<p>Does Kitsap County have doctor leech therapy?<br />
As I see it&#8230;Sharon O&#8217;Hara</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Light</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/waterways/2008/10/03/what-will-these-little-fish-eat-if-not-feet/comment-page-1/#comment-2354</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  The freedom to have our feet nibbled on by little fish was one of the reasons we sailed for the new world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  The freedom to have our feet nibbled on by little fish was one of the reasons we sailed for the new world.</p>
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		<title>By: cdunagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdunagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure of my American History. Did they even have pedicures when our founding fathers were wearing out their feet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure of my American History. Did they even have pedicures when our founding fathers were wearing out their feet?</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Light</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think our founding fathers believed our government should concern itself with citizens who choose to have their feet nibbled on by fish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think our founding fathers believed our government should concern itself with citizens who choose to have their feet nibbled on by fish?</p>
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