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	<title>Comments on: Coppola on the Pros and Cons of Mayoral Pay Hike</title>
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	<description>Reporter Chris Henry talks about life in the county seat of Port Orchard and surrounding areas.</description>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg P,

If you have no problem with a mayor who admits that &quot;it’s impossible to do this job right, and hold another job&quot; while he is in fact holding another job, and then asks for a pay raise so he can continue &quot;not doing this job right&quot;, then good for you.

I, however, do have a problem with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg P,</p>
<p>If you have no problem with a mayor who admits that &#8220;it’s impossible to do this job right, and hold another job&#8221; while he is in fact holding another job, and then asks for a pay raise so he can continue &#8220;not doing this job right&#8221;, then good for you.</p>
<p>I, however, do have a problem with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliot,

Think about this yourself, before criticizing the Mayor.

Your Quote: “Seems to me his whining about how busy he is would be a lot easier to take if he gave his other job up BEFORE asking for more money.”

Give us all a break. He’s not whining. He’s being responsible.

So, you’d quit a full-time job in this economy, THEN ask a part-time employer to give you a full-time position? Boy, that is just plain stupid-logic.

If you have a wife and child to feed, you just don’t do risky things like that with your income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot,</p>
<p>Think about this yourself, before criticizing the Mayor.</p>
<p>Your Quote: “Seems to me his whining about how busy he is would be a lot easier to take if he gave his other job up BEFORE asking for more money.”</p>
<p>Give us all a break. He’s not whining. He’s being responsible.</p>
<p>So, you’d quit a full-time job in this economy, THEN ask a part-time employer to give you a full-time position? Boy, that is just plain stupid-logic.</p>
<p>If you have a wife and child to feed, you just don’t do risky things like that with your income.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Other than Bremerton City Limits, I would look hard at living within city limits again and the reason is cost.
Presuming a person has their own well (submerged pump) and standard septic tank/drain field (I understand standard systems are no longer allowed in Kitsap) the utility costs are a fraction of what a city charges for water, septic.
A city is supposed to offer perks to offset the high cost of living within a city... but what does PO offer?  What do each of our KC towns offer the citizen to make up for the high cost of living within the city?
What is the benefit to the home owner to live within city limits?

I cannot imagine being without a county and county commissioners and the Sheriff&#039;s Department for law enforcement.
If I have a choice I would live in a good rural community and neighborhood. 
Sharon O&#039;Hara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than Bremerton City Limits, I would look hard at living within city limits again and the reason is cost.<br />
Presuming a person has their own well (submerged pump) and standard septic tank/drain field (I understand standard systems are no longer allowed in Kitsap) the utility costs are a fraction of what a city charges for water, septic.<br />
A city is supposed to offer perks to offset the high cost of living within a city&#8230; but what does PO offer?  What do each of our KC towns offer the citizen to make up for the high cost of living within the city?<br />
What is the benefit to the home owner to live within city limits?</p>
<p>I cannot imagine being without a county and county commissioners and the Sheriff&#8217;s Department for law enforcement.<br />
If I have a choice I would live in a good rural community and neighborhood.<br />
Sharon O&#8217;Hara</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting that the City of Port Orchard and its Mayor are willing to absorb a large area to gain future tax money with the intent to increase the mayors salary.  Mr. Meadows raises the same question I have a number of times to our County Commissioners regarding what happens to the rural non-incorporated Kitsap County taxpayer when Bremerton and Port Orchard complete their land grabs.  Ms. Angel commented in one e-mail that &quot;Ultimately the Growth Mgt. Act will have all areas annexed into the cities and the County may become a thing of the past.&quot;  It is so comforting to know my future may be as a Bremerton or Port Orchard city resident. It will make it very interesting to see how the Sheriff&#039;s Office, County Roads and Parks will fit into the future picture.  Maybe we can auction off County Parks to the highest bidder.  Instead of a plan, Bremerton and Port Orchard are reacting to a few developers and property owners who see profit in their future by leaving County control and going to city management.  I doubt Kitsap County, Bremerton, or Port Orchard are really thinking or caring about the rural taxpayer.  We do not have the influence or money to affect the rocky path that has been selected. It will be another smoke and mirrors magic trick that will some day be reflected in our increased County tax bill and the cutback in service that will be in our rural future.
Roger Gay
South Kitsap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that the City of Port Orchard and its Mayor are willing to absorb a large area to gain future tax money with the intent to increase the mayors salary.  Mr. Meadows raises the same question I have a number of times to our County Commissioners regarding what happens to the rural non-incorporated Kitsap County taxpayer when Bremerton and Port Orchard complete their land grabs.  Ms. Angel commented in one e-mail that &#8220;Ultimately the Growth Mgt. Act will have all areas annexed into the cities and the County may become a thing of the past.&#8221;  It is so comforting to know my future may be as a Bremerton or Port Orchard city resident. It will make it very interesting to see how the Sheriff&#8217;s Office, County Roads and Parks will fit into the future picture.  Maybe we can auction off County Parks to the highest bidder.  Instead of a plan, Bremerton and Port Orchard are reacting to a few developers and property owners who see profit in their future by leaving County control and going to city management.  I doubt Kitsap County, Bremerton, or Port Orchard are really thinking or caring about the rural taxpayer.  We do not have the influence or money to affect the rocky path that has been selected. It will be another smoke and mirrors magic trick that will some day be reflected in our increased County tax bill and the cutback in service that will be in our rural future.<br />
Roger Gay<br />
South Kitsap</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, that&#039;s the article I recalled -- about the Bethel Corridor.  

It appears that, separate from any question of suspending the interlocal revenue-sharing (&quot;soft landing&quot;) agreement and annexation of the entire corridor by Port Orchard, the city is going ahead with annexation of the Fred Meyer end of the corridor.  

Once this annexation goes through, assuming it does, then the city will have both ends of the corridor within its boundaries.  I suppose it can just &quot;munch&quot; from one end or the other as time goes on until it has taken the whole thing.  

As for the county&#039;s infrastructure burden, I doubt that anything would happen for quite a while, since the county has little funding and little incentive to put money into an area that the city would then annex and take all the sales tax revenue and part of the property tax revenue.  I think the Bethel Corridor will simply develop like Wheaton Way did -- a little at a time, whether under the city or county.  

Since the city seems willing to toss out the &quot;not like Wheaton Way&quot; plans adopted by the county back in December 2000, I suppose the piecemeal &quot;just like Wheaton Way&quot; development will come after the city annexes it.  

Perhaps this piecemeal development is what the owners want.  If not, what is the advantage to the owners of being annexed into Port Orchard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, that&#8217;s the article I recalled &#8212; about the Bethel Corridor.  </p>
<p>It appears that, separate from any question of suspending the interlocal revenue-sharing (&#8220;soft landing&#8221;) agreement and annexation of the entire corridor by Port Orchard, the city is going ahead with annexation of the Fred Meyer end of the corridor.  </p>
<p>Once this annexation goes through, assuming it does, then the city will have both ends of the corridor within its boundaries.  I suppose it can just &#8220;munch&#8221; from one end or the other as time goes on until it has taken the whole thing.  </p>
<p>As for the county&#8217;s infrastructure burden, I doubt that anything would happen for quite a while, since the county has little funding and little incentive to put money into an area that the city would then annex and take all the sales tax revenue and part of the property tax revenue.  I think the Bethel Corridor will simply develop like Wheaton Way did &#8212; a little at a time, whether under the city or county.  </p>
<p>Since the city seems willing to toss out the &#8220;not like Wheaton Way&#8221; plans adopted by the county back in December 2000, I suppose the piecemeal &#8220;just like Wheaton Way&#8221; development will come after the city annexes it.  </p>
<p>Perhaps this piecemeal development is what the owners want.  If not, what is the advantage to the owners of being annexed into Port Orchard?</p>
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		<title>By: chris henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - Here&#039;s the link to a recent article I did on the Bethel Corridor.

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/nov/11/port-orchard-eye-on-the-bethel-corridor/
You&#039;re right, I need to do a follow up and taker a closer look at the financial implications for both the city and the county. Notice in the article the city would like the county to suspend the revenue sharing agreement it has with all cities in the event of annexation, the purpose of which is to give the county a &quot;soft landing&quot; as it loses funding. Coppola says the trade-off would be, the county would no longer have the burden of developing infrastructure along Bethel Road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8211; Here&#8217;s the link to a recent article I did on the Bethel Corridor.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/nov/11/port-orchard-eye-on-the-bethel-corridor/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/nov/11/port-orchard-eye-on-the-bethel-corridor/</a><br />
You&#8217;re right, I need to do a follow up and taker a closer look at the financial implications for both the city and the county. Notice in the article the city would like the county to suspend the revenue sharing agreement it has with all cities in the event of annexation, the purpose of which is to give the county a &#8220;soft landing&#8221; as it loses funding. Coppola says the trade-off would be, the county would no longer have the burden of developing infrastructure along Bethel Road.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the mayor admits that &lt;blockquote&gt;It’s impossible to do this job right, and hold another job.&lt;/blockquote&gt; then &lt;b&gt;why does he still hold another job?&lt;/b&gt; Seems to me his whining about how busy he is would be a lot easier to take if he gave his other job up BEFORE asking for more money.
&lt;blockquote&gt;The cost to the taxpayers of putting this to a vote — even when run in conjunction with a regularly scheduled election — is a minimum of about $15,000. That’s money the City can better spend on other things — like parks, public safety, and capital improvements.&lt;/blockquote&gt;...or raising the salary of the &quot;Lord Mayor&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the mayor admits that<br />
<blockquote>It’s impossible to do this job right, and hold another job.</p></blockquote>
<p> then <b>why does he still hold another job?</b> Seems to me his whining about how busy he is would be a lot easier to take if he gave his other job up BEFORE asking for more money.</p>
<blockquote><p>The cost to the taxpayers of putting this to a vote — even when run in conjunction with a regularly scheduled election — is a minimum of about $15,000. That’s money the City can better spend on other things — like parks, public safety, and capital improvements.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;or raising the salary of the &#8220;Lord Mayor&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what Diane Cook said about having more experienced candidates if the salary were known might be true.   I&#039;d want to know where the money would come from if this &#039;pending&#039; annexation doesn&#039;t happen.  We&#039;re facing some tough times.... might be time to renegotiate from 60,000?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Diane Cook said about having more experienced candidates if the salary were known might be true.   I&#8217;d want to know where the money would come from if this &#8216;pending&#8217; annexation doesn&#8217;t happen.  We&#8217;re facing some tough times&#8230;. might be time to renegotiate from 60,000?</p>
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		<title>By: Myrna Loche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrna Loche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>King Lary has spoken and don&#039;t worry it will happen.  The City of PO won&#039;t just get a mayor, they will get a dictator as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>King Lary has spoken and don&#8217;t worry it will happen.  The City of PO won&#8217;t just get a mayor, they will get a dictator as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is time for PO to look at getting a professional city manager...$62,000 should attract quality and trained applicants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is time for PO to look at getting a professional city manager&#8230;$62,000 should attract quality and trained applicants.</p>
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