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Odd behavior by pedestrian signal reported

The in basket: Jeff who gave no last name says that while he tried to cross Naval Avenue at Burwell Street in Bremerton one afternoon, “I got to the intersection as the pedestrian signal was in the middle of its countdown. I pressed the button expecting to have to wait a full cycle, but as soon as the countdown reached zero, the walk signal came up (again).
“I’m not familiar with how signals are set up, but it seems like a programming change should allow the button to reset the countdown if there will be time in the overall light cycle for pedestrians to cross.

“After someone presses the button to cross, the white walking person (symbol) comes up with the traffic green. After a few seconds, the white walking person turns into the flashing red hand with the countdown. If a new person walks up and presses the button, nothing happens, the count down continues. As soon as the countdown hits zero, without pressing the button again, the white walking person comes back up.

“My question was why can’t pressing the button a second time allow the white walk signal to come back up without having to go through the whole count down.” 

The out basket: I had never seen such a thing, in Bremerton or elsewhere, but it appears it can and does happen.

Jeff Collins of the Bremerton signal shop says, “The newer traffic signal controllers will allow a pedestrian call to be re-serviced if there are no other calls or if the current cycle has enough time left on that phase.

“Pressing the button repeatedly will not change how the signal operates,” he added. “Once the pedestrian call is placed (the button is pushed), it is locked into the controller and pressing the button again has no effect until after the walk is displayed, then pressing after walk is displayed will only lock the call in until the walk is displayed again.”

Left turns on 11th at Naval creating long backups

The in basket: Keri Heber was stuck in traffic on Bremerton’s 11th Street Oct. 30, caught with other drivers behind someone waiting to turn left onto Naval, while the westbound lanes were reduced from three to one.

“While commuting home at about 5 p.m. westbound on 11th,” she wrote, ‘I found myself in a backup, all the way to High Street, because left turns are still allowed from 11th to Naval. Since there is only one lane, any car turning left and waiting for westbound traffic to clear will hold

up the eastbound traffic. And then the backup gets worse for those of us patiently waiting, as cars come across High Street in the right lane to

jump into the waiting line.

“Why are left turns still allowed onto Naval?” She asked. “There are plenty of streets prior to Naval, such as High, where left turns could have been routed.

The out basket: Bill Davis, project engineer for the sewer main work that caused the reduction to one lane, says, “We discussed whether to restrict the turn from westbound 11th to southbound Naval extensively, taking into consideration that traffic would likely back up on 11th Street at times.

“Ultimately, our decision was informed by our experience of the traffic revision at  6th and Warren earlier in the project, where we received several complaints because we restricted turns at that location.  Based on our experience at that intersection, we decided to minimize restrictions for this temporary revision at 11th and Naval and continue to allow the movement.

“Unfortunately we’ve been delayed with getting the intersection back open because we are unable to asphalt pave during heavy rain,” he said.

 

 

Naval & 11th work all part of the plan

The in basket: Gary Reed asked on the Road Warrior blog at kitsapsun.com, “What is happening at 11th and Naval (in Bremerton)? Shortly after the sewer work was paved over there seemed to be an odor in the area. Now I’m wondering if there was a leak in the pipework since it appears the area is being dug up.

“If there was a leak and it is being redone, who pays for that rework? I would hope we taxpayers are not footing the bill for repairing the poor workmanship.”

The out basket: No poor workmanship involved, says Gunnar Fridriksson of the city street engineers, just a logistical decision to get 11th Street open to traffic as soon as possible..

“It was not the finish paving,” he said. “Sequencing the work for construction of the new main, keeping the existing main in service, and re-opening 11th to traffic as soon as possible required the contractor to re-open the intersection to make final connections.

“While new main was laid from Naval to Montgomery on 11th Street, a section of the line in Naval Avenue from 11th to 13th was reused by placing a cure-in-place pipe liner into it.  I believe this is the source of the odor your reader mentioned.

“The liner is saturated with an epoxy and pulled into place in the old main.  There it is filled with hot water to expand it and cause it to adhere to the existing pipe.  During this process, the new liner will emit a fiberglass-resin type of odor which is a bit stinky, but not dangerous.”