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Is Lindvig to Front Street in Poulsbo a right turn?

The in basket: Bruce Brockett asks, “When entering Poulsbo on NW Lindvig Way, at the traffic light where Bond Road is on the left, and Front Street is on the right/straight ahead (Liberty Bay Auto on the right), is a right turn on red onto Front Street allowed?

“I never see anyone doing it. If allowed, are all three-way intersections OK for a turn on red (actually straight through) from the similar approach lane?”

The out basket: Sgt. Howard Leeming of Poulsbo police says, no, that is not a legal right on red.

“It is not a right turn at that location,  as it is a basic ’T’ intersection with the through road being Lindvig Way to Front Street,” he said. “The road does slightly turn and changes its name, which could lead to some confusion.

“I’ve been asked this question before and an answer I often provide to make it meet the common sense test is asking the driver if they had the green light going this direction, would they put their turn signal on? The answer is always ‘no’ so they seem to already understand it is simply a bend in the roadway, not a turn.

“Coming from the other direction, you can make the right turn after stopping on Front Street to Bond Road and you can also turn right after stopping for a red light from Bond Road to Lindvig Way,” he said.

 

Bond-Lindvig signal in Poulsbo puzzles reader

The in basket: Tom Wisniewski of Bremerton asks, “Do you know if the signal at the intersection of Front Street, Bond Road, and Lindvig Way (in Poulsbo) is on a sensor or a timer?  I seem to spend a lot of time waiting for non-existent traffic to come off of Bond Road.”

The out basket: Mike Lund, public works supervisor in Poulsbo, replies, “The Bond Road / Lindvig Way signal is on a timer on the Bond Road leg of the intersection. This leg of the intersection  has bad (traffic) detection and the controller for the signal has a few issues.

“There are times that traffic has to sit while there are no cars but its set for a maximum time of 30 seconds.  At no point do cars have to sit for more than 30 seconds without traffic. This seems like a long time when you’re the driver sitting there but it seems to be keeping the traffic in the intersection moving the best. We have adjusted it to find a happy medium.

“A new controller has been ordered for that intersection and we are looking at doing radar style traffic detection.

“By  May/June this intersection will have all new equipment and be working properly,” Mike said.

Driver thinks signs forbidding passing on the right on Bond Road would help

The in basket: Jerry Darnall of Kingston writes, “I travel Bond Road on a regular basis. Very few left-turn lanes exist, and many times I see vehicles pass stopped left turners, often at high rates of speed, on the right, particularly at the Bond Road/Pugh-Foss Road intersection.

“Recently I witnessed a Kitsap County Sheriff do that very tactic. I have even been passed on the right going into Kingston with some driver using the ferry holding lane as a passing lane, which is very scary, considering the number of local residents using that as a sidewalk when there is no ferry traffic.

“It’s my understanding that to drive over the fog line is considered ‘driving off the roadway.’ Am I wrong?” he asks.

“We seem to have more and more advisory signage.. seat belts, burning material, pictured school buses, etc … How about strategically placed signs advising ‘Passing stopped vehicle on right illegal,’ especially at Pugh and Bond Road, as this seems to be a current high accident intersection.

“(Are there) any plans to add a left turn lanes at that intersection?” Jerry asked in conclusion.

The out basket: Jerry is correct, crossing the fog line to pass on the right is against the law, but as with speeding, it’s a common violation. I confess to doing it myself, albeit at a very low speed after coming nearly to a stop. Those who do it without slowing run a great risk of hitting a bicyclist or pedestrian on the shoulder, not to mention another driver who belatedly decides to commit the same infraction and pulls out of line to the right.

Despite the examples of signs that Jerry mentions stating other laws, the prohibition of passing on the right while crossing the edge line is not one of the “rules of the road” the state wants to spend money on signing.

“We typically don’t sign the ‘rules of the road,’ as the same rule or law applies everywhere and is widely known,” says Steve Bennett, state operations engineer for this area.  “If we began posting signs stating, “Passing Stopped Vehicles on Right –  Illegal” we could add hundreds of signs to the state inventory with probably little effect.  Signs like this do little to stop aggressive drivers from passing on the right, even though they know it is illegal.

“In terms of Pugh Road, we have no plans, meaning (no) legislative approval or funding, to widen the highway to add a left turn lane (there) at this time.”

 

 

 

 

Visibility at revised NK intersection protested

The in basket: Keith Pittman of North Kitsap writes “the new traffic revision at the intersection of Port Gamble-Suquamish Road and Bond Road has created quite a dangerous vision issue when turning onto Bond Road from the east side of Port Gamble-Suquamish Road.  

“The new angle of the intersection makes it impossible to see on-coming traffic from the south.  With the incline and the curve, the trees are blocking the view. 

“Again,” Keith asserts, “this county has been dealt another blow to smooth and safe traffic, let alone the inconvenience to those who regularly use those arterials.  Kind of like speed bumps on the freeway, eh?”

The out basket: As a South Kitsaper, I am regularly impressed when I venture into the north end how bad the traffic is there, whether it’s the Finn Hill-Viking Way intersection,  the now-improved Highway 305 through Poulsbo, or this place, Bond Road. 

 A person can sit a long time waiting for a break in Bond Road traffic, including at the Port Gamble-Suquamish Road intersection. That’s probably why the state moved the eastern one a short distance so they no longer line up, ending straight-across traffic as well as left turns onto and off of Bond.

Fortunately, the traffic lights at Gunderson Road and at the bend in Highway 104 eventually provide breaks in the interminable strings of cars there, but an impatient or unfamiliar driver, or anyone with a long line of cars behind him, might not know, want or dare to wait.  

Steve Bennett, traffic operations engineer for the Olympic Region of state highways, says even though the project cut into the sight distance for those looking south from the eastern intersection, it still meets their standard of 350 feet (a football field and a sixth) for highway speeds. The new alignment provides 460 feet of sight distance “and over 700 feet of sight distance when the drivers roll ahead to a few feet from the fog line,” he said.

But they will look to see if brush can be removed near the curve to improve visibility there, he said.

 

Changes at 305-Bond light have fouled traffic

The in basket: Patty Hill of North Kitsap comments quite often on the operation of the traffic signal on Highway 305 at Bond Road in Poulsbo, and now says the lights for left turn traffic onto Bond Road northbound have taken a turn for the worse.

“Within the last few months, they changed the way the lights work,” she said. “If you’re heading towards Bainbridge Island on 305 and you want to turn left onto Bond Road heading towards Kingston, the two left turn lanes always came on first, then the other two lanes going straight into Poulsbo came on and then both stopped at the same time. 

 “Now,” she said, “they are set up so that the two lanes heading straight to Bainbridge come on first, then the two left turn lanes and then they shut down together (usually).”  The left turn lane green time is shorter than it used to be, she said, so more and more cars continue to turn as the light goes yellow and red. They also rush through in the right-most of the two left-turn lanes, trying to get ahead of those in the other lane as they turn, she said.

“What happens is more people are being left behind again,” she said. “My husband and I take that route every night from home.  When they first opened up all the lanes after the paving was done, we never once waited for the light to change other than when we first pulled up there. Now we are waiting for two and three changes before we can go through.

“We prefer not to get in the (right-most) turn lane because of aggressive behavior from drivers in the (left-most) turn lane thinking we’re trying to edge them out).

 “Then if you’re coming from Kingston towards Poulsbo on Bond Road and you want to turn left onto Highway 305 heading towards Bainbridge, guess what.  Those changed, too, and when the people turning left from Highway 305 onto Bond Road rush through while the light is going back to red, those of us turning left from Bond onto the highway now have to wait when ours turns green for them to stop driving through.”

She said she has been in a line of only five cars on Bond at the light and it took her three light changes to make her left turn.

“Can you find out if someone made the change and either doesn’t know what they’re doing, if they think it’s working or is there a chance to go back to how it was before?” she asked.

The out basket: Left turn lights can be either “leading,” as this one used to be, or “trailing” or “lagging,” as it is now, usually based on what computer simulations say will move the most traffic through a given corridor. 

Jim Johnstone of the Olympic Region signal shop said they went to watch the light and confirmed Patty’s observations.

“We did make the left turn from southbound 305 onto Bond Road a lagging left,” he said. “This was done for progression purposes and to ensure that the left turners have arrived at the Bond Road intersection before giving them a green. We are going to make some adjustments to the timing at Lincoln/Iverson and also Bond Road,” he said.

But the changes won’t include a return to a leading left at Bond Road, he said. 

“Since everything is coordinated now from Viking through Hostmark, the traffic being released from Viking arrives at the start of green on the mainline at Bond.  So as this traffic progresses through Bond Road, the left turns filter out of the platoon and are served at the end of the Highway 305 mainline green. 

“If we were to lead the left turn signal at Bond, the vehicles wanting to make that left would not have arrived yet and would have to wait for the signal to cycle back to the leading left turn,” he said..