Stop First, Then Creep Forward for a Peek

The in basket: Laura Jackley read the May 1 Road Warrior saying one must stop for the stop bar or crosswalk at an intersection, not at the stop sign, which is usually a few feet back from those other points.
She wrote, “I was taught, years ago, as was my daughter just recently in driver’s ed
school, that one must stop BEFORE the stop sign and inch out to have
unobstructed visibility. Not the case, anymore?”


The in basket: Laura Jackley read the May 1 Road Warrior saying one must stop for the stop bar or crosswalk at an intersection, not at the stop sign, which is usually a few feet back from those other points.
She wrote, “I was taught, years ago, as was my daughter just recently in driver’s ed
school, that one must stop BEFORE the stop sign and inch out to have
unobstructed visibility. Not the case, anymore?”
The out basket: I checked with Tabatha Meadows at Northwest Driving School and Mike Cassidy at Diamond Driving School and both said they teach that the stop bar or crosswalk , whether marked or unmarked, is the place to stop, not the stop sign or before it.
Both use the term “creep” to describe the gradual advance to get adequate visibility after stopping if one can’t yet see oncoming traffic clearly.
In any event, state law calls for stopping at the stop bar or crosswalk, not the stop sign.
While Mike had me on the line, he commented on another past Road Warrior, about hand signals, which the law requires be used when other drivers can’t see your electronic signals or brake lights. I wondered in that March 8 column when that might be.
Mike said the most common situation is when pulling out of a parallel parking space when the car behind you might hide the back of your car from the view of approaching drivers.

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