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	<title>Comments on: Bremerton Boardwalk in Deep Water</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Reed</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2008/07/16/bremerton-boardwalk-in-deep-water/comment-page-1/#comment-9486</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see much difference between the boardwalk design and the design used for the over the water facilities (Delta Pier, MSF, EHW) at Bangor Sub Base. They are both designed to parallel the shoreline so that migrating fish can travel along a shoreline without shadows - or at least that&#039;s the reason that I was given for the Bangor design. I&#039;ve never heard of a fish migration problem caused by the Bangor facilities and the Bremerton design seems to meet this criteria so that shouldn&#039;t be a problem. As for increased pollution, that hasn&#039;t been a problem at Bangor either. Sounds like a tribe ransom situation. Frank Reed, Poulsbo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see much difference between the boardwalk design and the design used for the over the water facilities (Delta Pier, MSF, EHW) at Bangor Sub Base. They are both designed to parallel the shoreline so that migrating fish can travel along a shoreline without shadows &#8211; or at least that&#8217;s the reason that I was given for the Bangor design. I&#8217;ve never heard of a fish migration problem caused by the Bangor facilities and the Bremerton design seems to meet this criteria so that shouldn&#8217;t be a problem. As for increased pollution, that hasn&#8217;t been a problem at Bangor either. Sounds like a tribe ransom situation. Frank Reed, Poulsbo</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Applewhite</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2008/07/16/bremerton-boardwalk-in-deep-water/comment-page-1/#comment-9463</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica Applewhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is incredibly disappointing news.  
Surely we need to protect accessibility to fishing areas and other means of livelihood for our nation&#039;s first peoples but this objection by the tribes seems like a political game to me, rather &quot;fishy&quot; (pun intented). Firstly- Why did the tribes not raise this objection sooner?  The boardwalk plan has been moving forward for years and surely there would have been multiple opportunities for the tribes to have a say.  It seems quite implausible in this day and age of hyper-diligence in securing stakeholder buy-in, that the tribes were somehow overlooked in the planning process. Secondly, I raise the same question as Sharon, above.  I live downtown Bremerton and spend enough time walking/running the Manette bridge, and kayaking the shoreline to see that this is area of water is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a popular fishing destination.  I think the tribes should show evidence to support their case. Thirdly, the sewer upgrade and the environmental clean up of the park/shoreline on the Evergreen Park end of the boardwalk are reasons enough to go through with the boardwalk project, probably doing more for protecting fishing habitats for tribes then leaving these areas as they are. I would think the tribes would be eager to see such needed improvements.
Sign me up to help fight this. The boardwalk is a superbly conceived plan and will make a tremendous addition for all peoples of Bremerton and Kitsap County.
Erica Applewhite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is incredibly disappointing news.<br />
Surely we need to protect accessibility to fishing areas and other means of livelihood for our nation&#8217;s first peoples but this objection by the tribes seems like a political game to me, rather &#8220;fishy&#8221; (pun intented). Firstly- Why did the tribes not raise this objection sooner?  The boardwalk plan has been moving forward for years and surely there would have been multiple opportunities for the tribes to have a say.  It seems quite implausible in this day and age of hyper-diligence in securing stakeholder buy-in, that the tribes were somehow overlooked in the planning process. Secondly, I raise the same question as Sharon, above.  I live downtown Bremerton and spend enough time walking/running the Manette bridge, and kayaking the shoreline to see that this is area of water is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a popular fishing destination.  I think the tribes should show evidence to support their case. Thirdly, the sewer upgrade and the environmental clean up of the park/shoreline on the Evergreen Park end of the boardwalk are reasons enough to go through with the boardwalk project, probably doing more for protecting fishing habitats for tribes then leaving these areas as they are. I would think the tribes would be eager to see such needed improvements.<br />
Sign me up to help fight this. The boardwalk is a superbly conceived plan and will make a tremendous addition for all peoples of Bremerton and Kitsap County.<br />
Erica Applewhite</p>
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		<title>By: JimH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why the delayed response to an event that&#039;s been &#039;on the books&#039; for quite a while now? 

With the &quot;rules&quot; for construction that currently exist, it&#039;s amazing to me that ANYTHING gets built in this area. 

Challenges to construction/building are fine, but have the hootzpa to be up front about them rather than taking a stance of .. &quot;oh wait, there may be a snail darter under that tree a spotted owl sat in 15 years ago, next to some creek that had a salmon in it once&quot;. 

Get the tribes involved EARLY in the processes, if they&#039;re up front enough to do so, so should some.. &#039;resistance&#039;.. occur, big $&#039;s won&#039;t be chased only to be smacked down at the last minute because of some whiney &quot;but we didn&#039;t get ours&quot; situation.

JimH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why the delayed response to an event that&#8217;s been &#8216;on the books&#8217; for quite a while now? </p>
<p>With the &#8220;rules&#8221; for construction that currently exist, it&#8217;s amazing to me that ANYTHING gets built in this area. </p>
<p>Challenges to construction/building are fine, but have the hootzpa to be up front about them rather than taking a stance of .. &#8220;oh wait, there may be a snail darter under that tree a spotted owl sat in 15 years ago, next to some creek that had a salmon in it once&#8221;. </p>
<p>Get the tribes involved EARLY in the processes, if they&#8217;re up front enough to do so, so should some.. &#8216;resistance&#8217;.. occur, big $&#8217;s won&#8217;t be chased only to be smacked down at the last minute because of some whiney &#8220;but we didn&#8217;t get ours&#8221; situation.</p>
<p>JimH</p>
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		<title>By: john jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>john jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before we build another disaster like the Big Dicks tunnel or the Silverdale Interchange, can we please fix the Manette Bridge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we build another disaster like the Big Dicks tunnel or the Silverdale Interchange, can we please fix the Manette Bridge?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article says: &quot;Should the city apply again over the tribe&#039;s objection, the corps will ask for documentation from the tribe to back up its claim if that evidence is not already on file in corps offices, Graesser said.&quot;

The letter from the tribe says they are willing to meet with the city.

So, why don&#039;t city officials meet with the tribe and ask the tribe to lay its evidence on the table?

Saying it &quot;could&quot; impact their treaty rights is not the same as showing that it would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article says: &#8220;Should the city apply again over the tribe&#8217;s objection, the corps will ask for documentation from the tribe to back up its claim if that evidence is not already on file in corps offices, Graesser said.&#8221;</p>
<p>The letter from the tribe says they are willing to meet with the city.</p>
<p>So, why don&#8217;t city officials meet with the tribe and ask the tribe to lay its evidence on the table?</p>
<p>Saying it &#8220;could&#8221; impact their treaty rights is not the same as showing that it would.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing.  Have they ever fished there?  Who and when?
Sharon O&#039;Hara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.  Have they ever fished there?  Who and when?<br />
Sharon O&#8217;Hara</p>
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