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		<title>By: Zachary Slaton</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3998</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Slaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 02:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my post in the &quot;Talladega Nights&quot; thread regarding the likely environmental impact of the track.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See my post in the &#8220;Talladega Nights&#8221; thread regarding the likely environmental impact of the track.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Larabee</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3997</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Larabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda Hinton states the case so eloquently. The proposed track is so much a very inappropriate assault on all of us who chose to live here.  The best view of NASCAR events is on the TV, and there&#039;s even a volume control there!  Don&#039;t tread on us!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda Hinton states the case so eloquently. The proposed track is so much a very inappropriate assault on all of us who chose to live here.  The best view of NASCAR events is on the TV, and there&#8217;s even a volume control there!  Don&#8217;t tread on us!</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Hinton</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3996</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Hinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved to Kitsap County seven years ago to enjoy the quiet, beautiful lifestyle. Coming from the desert, my appreciation of the trees, ocean and mountains just increases every day. It saddens me that I have seen tree after tree, and swathes of land multipled by the hundreds, chopped down in the name of &quot;progress.&quot;
I believe that the NASCAR track idea is so wrong for this county, and the communities here. The very things that make this a great place to live are being destroyed. STOP NASCAR!
It would be interesting for the Kitsap Sun to poll a WIDE group of residents of the county, and see what the results are. I really think the NASCAR fans should watch their sport somewhere else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to Kitsap County seven years ago to enjoy the quiet, beautiful lifestyle. Coming from the desert, my appreciation of the trees, ocean and mountains just increases every day. It saddens me that I have seen tree after tree, and swathes of land multipled by the hundreds, chopped down in the name of &#8220;progress.&#8221;<br />
I believe that the NASCAR track idea is so wrong for this county, and the communities here. The very things that make this a great place to live are being destroyed. STOP NASCAR!<br />
It would be interesting for the Kitsap Sun to poll a WIDE group of residents of the county, and see what the results are. I really think the NASCAR fans should watch their sport somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Slaton</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3995</link>
		<dc:creator>Zachary Slaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Kent&#039;s suggestion to Jack: don&#039;t move to Detroit, as industry and commerce here aren&#039;t doing too well.

I will say that I don&#039;t getting to the point in a debate of &quot;if you don&#039;t like it, just move out of town.&quot;  Like I said in another post, I think we are only at the tip of the iceberg on this issue.  I think everyone will be surprised how this debate goes once a formal proposal is introduced at the state legislature and the general public gets involved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kent&#8217;s suggestion to Jack: don&#8217;t move to Detroit, as industry and commerce here aren&#8217;t doing too well.</p>
<p>I will say that I don&#8217;t getting to the point in a debate of &#8220;if you don&#8217;t like it, just move out of town.&#8221;  Like I said in another post, I think we are only at the tip of the iceberg on this issue.  I think everyone will be surprised how this debate goes once a formal proposal is introduced at the state legislature and the general public gets involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Danison</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3994</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Danison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, Couple of things here. How much are you willing to sacrifice for this track? The track will not give any property tax relief, in fact, the property taxes being paid now on that land will go away. You might want to do a little more research, the stuff you are saying just isn&#039;t right.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, Couple of things here. How much are you willing to sacrifice for this track? The track will not give any property tax relief, in fact, the property taxes being paid now on that land will go away. You might want to do a little more research, the stuff you are saying just isn&#8217;t right.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3993</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Welch,

What makes you think a majority of people in Kitsap County support the track? I read somewhere in here that Tim Sheldon polled his constituents about the track and over 70% opposed it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Welch,</p>
<p>What makes you think a majority of people in Kitsap County support the track? I read somewhere in here that Tim Sheldon polled his constituents about the track and over 70% opposed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Larabee</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3992</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Larabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Mr. Welch, you miss the point.  There is little economic benefit from such a track (at least for local residents). On the other hand, there will be great expense in loss of personal mobility, environmental destruction and eventual massive upgrading of our transportational infrastructure at taxpayer expense just to support the traffic, increased population and wear and tear on our increasingly crowded highways. Your &quot;minority&quot; is really the taxpaying majority.  In sum, there&#039;s &quot;no there there&quot; if you live in Kitsap or Mason counties.  Please move to Detroit if you&#039;re seeking industry and commerce.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Mr. Welch, you miss the point.  There is little economic benefit from such a track (at least for local residents). On the other hand, there will be great expense in loss of personal mobility, environmental destruction and eventual massive upgrading of our transportational infrastructure at taxpayer expense just to support the traffic, increased population and wear and tear on our increasingly crowded highways. Your &#8220;minority&#8221; is really the taxpaying majority.  In sum, there&#8217;s &#8220;no there there&#8221; if you live in Kitsap or Mason counties.  Please move to Detroit if you&#8217;re seeking industry and commerce.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Meadows</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-caucus/2005/12/06/environmental-angles/comment-page-1/#comment-3991</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, you say: &quot;This track would add greatly to the economy of the entire area....could finally give all of us some relief from high property and other taxes and fees....&quot;

The ISC/GWS proposal, if enacted by the legislature, would exempt the speedway facility lessee (GWS) from the leasehold excise tax which would ordinarily take the place of property taxes.

How could giving ISC/GWS a virtually rent-free and tax-free place to do business relieve the tax burden on the rest of the people in South Kitsap?

When none of the tax burden is picked up by the new guy in town, the others must carry the same burden as always.

If ISC/GWS paid market-value rent and the leasehold excise tax based on that rent, then the tax burden on everyone else could be reduced.  But, that isn&#039;t what ISC/GWS proposes to do.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, you say: &#8220;This track would add greatly to the economy of the entire area&#8230;.could finally give all of us some relief from high property and other taxes and fees&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The ISC/GWS proposal, if enacted by the legislature, would exempt the speedway facility lessee (GWS) from the leasehold excise tax which would ordinarily take the place of property taxes.</p>
<p>How could giving ISC/GWS a virtually rent-free and tax-free place to do business relieve the tax burden on the rest of the people in South Kitsap?</p>
<p>When none of the tax burden is picked up by the new guy in town, the others must carry the same burden as always.</p>
<p>If ISC/GWS paid market-value rent and the leasehold excise tax based on that rent, then the tax burden on everyone else could be reduced.  But, that isn&#8217;t what ISC/GWS proposes to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Welch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer to &quot;can this noisy racetrack be compatible with this community&#039;s vision....&quot;
The answer is a resounding &quot;YES&quot;.
There is a time when the minority must compromise a bit for the benefit of the majority.  This track would add greatly to the economy of the entire area....could finally give all of us some relief from high property  and other taxes and fees imnposed by liberal tax and spend politicians.  Let&#039;s not pass up this opportunity.  As much as our economic development agencies try to bring in more industry and commerce it cannot match one that is knocking on our door.  Let&#039;s not lock that door and regret it for generations to come.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to &#8220;can this noisy racetrack be compatible with this community&#8217;s vision&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
The answer is a resounding &#8220;YES&#8221;.<br />
There is a time when the minority must compromise a bit for the benefit of the majority.  This track would add greatly to the economy of the entire area&#8230;.could finally give all of us some relief from high property  and other taxes and fees imnposed by liberal tax and spend politicians.  Let&#8217;s not pass up this opportunity.  As much as our economic development agencies try to bring in more industry and commerce it cannot match one that is knocking on our door.  Let&#8217;s not lock that door and regret it for generations to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Fallica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Fallica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in Port Orchard,approximately 5 miles from the track site. We do not want our life style to change, for this noisy, polluting sport.  We have deer in our backyard, lots of birds and even a raccoon or two.  They will all disappear, as will our peace of mind.  NO, NO, NO to NASCAR.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in Port Orchard,approximately 5 miles from the track site. We do not want our life style to change, for this noisy, polluting sport.  We have deer in our backyard, lots of birds and even a raccoon or two.  They will all disappear, as will our peace of mind.  NO, NO, NO to NASCAR.</p>
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