Comments on: Commissioner Josh Brown Caught Red-Handed! http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/ An on-going conversation focused on the community of Central Kitsap, fueled by local resident Rich Jacobson. Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:30:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mightybeaver http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-218 mightybeaver Mon, 31 May 2010 07:55:11 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-218 Hi Rich, Moral to the story here is leave hot political issues to one side during election year!! Josh Brown and Democrats will thank you, everyone else will know on who's mast you've nailed your colors!! Play safe and deal with topics at your heart, Crabbing, clam digging, boating etc and any issue in central Kitsap that don't involve a candidate seeking re-election! Just a thought! Last I will say on the subject. Happy crabbing! Hi Rich, Moral to the story here is leave hot political issues to one side during election year!! Josh Brown and Democrats will thank you, everyone else will know on who’s mast you’ve nailed your colors!!

Play safe and deal with topics at your heart, Crabbing, clam digging, boating etc and any issue in central Kitsap that don’t involve a candidate seeking re-election! Just a thought! Last I will say on the subject. Happy crabbing!

]]> By: Rich Jacobson http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-217 Rich Jacobson Sun, 30 May 2010 17:04:51 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-217 fairandbalanced: no, I'm not 'campaigning' for Josh Brown. Again, simply expressing my own opinion. If you were to go back through my archive of previously published articles and uncover a habitual pattern of similar posts, then you might have some grounds for concern. Additionally, if I were employed by the Kitsap Sun and writing as a staff member, I would obviously need to maintain some measure of neutrality. As stated previously, I am hoping to meet the other two candidates who are running against Josh Brown in the near future, and will share my thoughts and observations about them as well. fairandbalanced: no, I’m not ‘campaigning’ for Josh Brown. Again, simply expressing my own opinion. If you were to go back through my archive of previously published articles and uncover a habitual pattern of similar posts, then you might have some grounds for concern. Additionally, if I were employed by the Kitsap Sun and writing as a staff member, I would obviously need to maintain some measure of neutrality. As stated previously, I am hoping to meet the other two candidates who are running against Josh Brown in the near future, and will share my thoughts and observations about them as well.

]]> By: fairandbalanced http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-216 fairandbalanced Sun, 30 May 2010 15:26:27 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-216 I wasn't actually talking about you campaigning, but since you brought it up, are you campaigning for Josh Brown? The big sell, whether it's a political candidate or an idea or a product, there's no place for it here. It insults people's intelligence. Just give us the information, the facts and your opinions. We can do the rest. I thought it was a nice post. It's interesting to see what Commissioner Brown is up to, even if some people think it's a photo op. I think the people of Central Kitsap should be very happy with this elected official. I wasn’t actually talking about you campaigning, but since you brought it up, are you campaigning for Josh Brown?

The big sell, whether it’s a political candidate or an idea or a product, there’s no place for it here. It insults people’s intelligence. Just give us the information, the facts and your opinions. We can do the rest.

I thought it was a nice post. It’s interesting to see what Commissioner Brown is up to, even if some people think it’s a photo op. I think the people of Central Kitsap should be very happy with this elected official.

]]> By: Rich Jacobson http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-215 Rich Jacobson Sun, 30 May 2010 05:22:06 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-215 fairandbalanced: Since when is it 'offensive' for someone to express their opinion? It might be somewhat questionable behavior if I myself were running for office and used this blog for my own personal political gain. But I am simply sharing my own experiences and opinions. Maybe I should just stick to local sporting events and apple pie recipes? Or would you find that offensive as well? fairandbalanced: Since when is it ‘offensive’ for someone to express their opinion? It might be somewhat questionable behavior if I myself were running for office and used this blog for my own personal political gain. But I am simply sharing my own experiences and opinions. Maybe I should just stick to local sporting events and apple pie recipes? Or would you find that offensive as well?

]]> By: fairandbalanced http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-214 fairandbalanced Sun, 30 May 2010 03:11:56 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-214 It's offensive when people use these blogs to campaign or market. It’s offensive when people use these blogs to campaign or market.

]]> By: jack stanfill http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-213 jack stanfill Sun, 30 May 2010 02:19:58 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-213 Hi- I base my comment about back room deals based on my personal experience with the KCBOC. We, the CCCCWB, filed a timely appeal on April 5, 2010. On April 6 we were told by the Kitsap County Prosecutor's office that KCBOC were not going to hear land appeals anymore. On April 12 the KCBOC voted not to hear land appeals anymore. How is that the County Prosecutor's office knew a week before the vote that the KCBOC were not going to hear land appeals? At this time I am not questioning you whether or not the land use appeal process was vested. But once again I ask you how was it that the outcome of the vote was known a week before the vote. Do you think it might make you wonder if this effected your home and family? Hi- I base my comment about back room deals based on my personal experience with the KCBOC. We, the CCCCWB, filed a timely appeal on April 5, 2010. On April 6 we were told by the Kitsap County Prosecutor’s office that KCBOC were not going to hear land appeals anymore. On April 12 the KCBOC voted not to hear land appeals anymore.
How is that the County Prosecutor’s office knew a week before the vote that the KCBOC were not going to hear land appeals?
At this time I am not questioning you whether or not the land use appeal process was vested. But once again I ask you how was it that the outcome of the vote was known a week before the vote. Do you think it might make you wonder if this effected your home and family?

]]> By: Rich Jacobson http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-212 Rich Jacobson Sat, 29 May 2010 07:35:50 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-212 MightyBeaver: I appreciate your viewpoints here. I've been blogging now for a number of years and know full well the spectrum of comments one can attract based on the expressed content. I welcome spirited dialog and debate here, as I do on any of my other blog platforms. I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with my opinions. How boring would that be? I wonder if we've become so distrustful of elected officials in general that we automatically assume everyone is on the take, or as Jack says above, cuts deals in back rooms. You can't blame people for their low tolerance of politicians these days. Personally, I think we've lost our sense of representational government. For the most part, the people in government are not in tune with their constituency. We feel we've lost our voice in matters that affects our daily lives. We can't field decent candidates for office because no one in their right mind wants to put up with all the headache or can't afford the expense of campaigning. But I digress.... Your comments are always welcome here!.... MightyBeaver: I appreciate your viewpoints here. I’ve been blogging now for a number of years and know full well the spectrum of comments one can attract based on the expressed content. I welcome spirited dialog and debate here, as I do on any of my other blog platforms. I certainly don’t expect everyone to agree with my opinions. How boring would that be? I wonder if we’ve become so distrustful of elected officials in general that we automatically assume everyone is on the take, or as Jack says above, cuts deals in back rooms. You can’t blame people for their low tolerance of politicians these days. Personally, I think we’ve lost our sense of representational government. For the most part, the people in government are not in tune with their constituency. We feel we’ve lost our voice in matters that affects our daily lives. We can’t field decent candidates for office because no one in their right mind wants to put up with all the headache or can’t afford the expense of campaigning. But I digress….

Your comments are always welcome here!….

]]> By: mightybeaver http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-211 mightybeaver Sat, 29 May 2010 06:18:20 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-211 Rich, I am aware of the "reader blog agreement" and terms and conditions that you, Colleen and others write your blogs. I don't have a problem either in who you write about and expressing your *personal* opinions, much again as stated by your colleague Colleen Smidt in her response. However, your last paragraph in your blog in my view is not a reflection on your personal family benefits, but rather more of an "endorsement" for Josh Brown. Clearly suggest that Kitsap blog readers should vote for him. I realize that you are pleased with the saving of the Olympic view marina as you are a avid Hood canal crabber! But not everyone see Josh Brown in the same light! Rich, I respect your opinion but like anyone who writes their views in public as a blogger, expect a reponse good or bad when you court political preference. Same applies to Colleen of course. Just my opinion. Rich, I am aware of the “reader blog agreement” and terms and conditions that you, Colleen and others write your blogs. I don’t have a problem either in who you write about and expressing your *personal* opinions, much again as stated by your colleague Colleen Smidt in her response.

However, your last paragraph in your blog in my view is not a reflection on your personal family benefits, but rather more of an “endorsement” for Josh Brown. Clearly suggest that Kitsap blog readers should vote for him. I realize that you are pleased with the saving of the Olympic view marina as you are a avid Hood canal crabber! But not everyone see Josh Brown in the same light!

Rich, I respect your opinion but like anyone who writes their views in public as a blogger, expect a reponse good or bad when you court political preference. Same applies to Colleen of course. Just my opinion.

]]> By: Rich Jacobson http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-210 Rich Jacobson Sat, 29 May 2010 05:16:28 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-210 Colleen: Wonderfully stated! I so appreciate your regular comments and thoughts. As you say, we may not always agree with one another, but the respectful interaction allows us to see different perspectives and evaluate our own opinions/positions. Colleen: Wonderfully stated! I so appreciate your regular comments and thoughts. As you say, we may not always agree with one another, but the respectful interaction allows us to see different perspectives and evaluate our own opinions/positions.

]]> By: Colleen Smidt http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/2010/05/28/commissioner-josh-brown-caught-brown-red-handed/comment-page-1/#comment-209 Colleen Smidt Sat, 29 May 2010 02:23:36 +0000 http://pugetsoundblogs.com/everyday-ck/?p=296#comment-209 Being a community columnist or blogger is a very interesting position to have and operate in with the rest of the world of professional journalism and its many unspoken and sometimes antiquated rules swirling all around you. I know because I have had to make many of the same decisions Rich does about what I will write about in my column and what I won't. As community columnist we get to do things the "reporters" don't, but in some ways we are also more limited as well. While I may not agree with Rich at all in any regards to Mr. Brown I fully support his personal decision to write about it. I had this conversation with my own editor several months ago right after I started getting published. Writing about politics is a decision that comes with a few rewards and many pitfalls as witnessed here. Once the door is open you run the risk as a columnist as being labeled for your politics and you can loose some of your large audience appeal. So far I choose not to open that door in my column and instead use other vehicles (such as the Kitsap Sun Blog) for my political endeavors. I must make my personal decision and Rich must make his. It is rather petty to stop listening to him as a whole and some of the great things he has to say about our community just because you don't agree with him on one or two issues. Not even my nine year old engages in that kind of behavior anymore. Keep at it Rich, you are doing fine. I will keep reading and supporting your blog even when I don’t agree with everything you have to say. Colleen Smidt Being a community columnist or blogger is a very interesting position to have and operate in with the rest of the world of professional journalism and its many unspoken and sometimes antiquated rules swirling all around you. I know because I have had to make many of the same decisions Rich does about what I will write about in my column and what I won’t. As community columnist we get to do things the “reporters” don’t, but in some ways we are also more limited as well.

While I may not agree with Rich at all in any regards to Mr. Brown I fully support his personal decision to write about it. I had this conversation with my own editor several months ago right after I started getting published. Writing about politics is a decision that comes with a few rewards and many pitfalls as witnessed here. Once the door is open you run the risk as a columnist as being labeled for your politics and you can loose some of your large audience appeal. So far I choose not to open that door in my column and instead use other vehicles (such as the Kitsap Sun Blog) for my political endeavors. I must make my personal decision and Rich must make his.

It is rather petty to stop listening to him as a whole and some of the great things he has to say about our community just because you don’t agree with him on one or two issues. Not even my nine year old engages in that kind of behavior anymore.

Keep at it Rich, you are doing fine. I will keep reading and supporting your blog even when I don’t agree with everything you have to say.

Colleen Smidt

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