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		<title>By: Cha Ching</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>Cha Ching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed, you owe your readers an apology for publishing such blatant propaganda.
It is lazy and irresponsible journalism to not check your sources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, you owe your readers an apology for publishing such blatant propaganda.<br />
It is lazy and irresponsible journalism to not check your sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Cha Ching</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>Cha Ching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are way off base. I am not standing up for the right to run a red light and disregard traffic laws. What I am standing up for is accountability, transparency  and safety. 
blah blah blah ...maybe I should go write it in chalk on the city sidewalk....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are way off base. I am not standing up for the right to run a red light and disregard traffic laws. What I am standing up for is accountability, transparency  and safety.<br />
blah blah blah &#8230;maybe I should go write it in chalk on the city sidewalk&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin in Manette</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1795</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin in Manette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cha Ching, I don&#039;t write the laws and it has nothing to do with parking.  I&#039;ts fairly obvious that they wrote the law to try to make it work within the existing system.  If you don&#039;t want a ticket, don&#039;t run the red light.

Mo Fourthright,  Try actually reading my post.  I said I&#039;ve been driving through those intersections for 35 years.  News Flash, those intersections have been there for a lot longer that 35 years.  Also your McCarthyism is showing.  I&#039;m no more a Socialist than President Obama.   Perhaps I should run around like Chicken Little and cry &quot;Fascist&quot;?  Shake the cobwebs out of your brain, turn off the Faux news and quit being a gullible follower (dittohead).  Your childish behavior is pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cha Ching, I don&#8217;t write the laws and it has nothing to do with parking.  I&#8217;ts fairly obvious that they wrote the law to try to make it work within the existing system.  If you don&#8217;t want a ticket, don&#8217;t run the red light.</p>
<p>Mo Fourthright,  Try actually reading my post.  I said I&#8217;ve been driving through those intersections for 35 years.  News Flash, those intersections have been there for a lot longer that 35 years.  Also your McCarthyism is showing.  I&#8217;m no more a Socialist than President Obama.   Perhaps I should run around like Chicken Little and cry &#8220;Fascist&#8221;?  Shake the cobwebs out of your brain, turn off the Faux news and quit being a gullible follower (dittohead).  Your childish behavior is pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cha Ching and all you others here that think you get one just for  being on the road. I drive down the roads of Bremerton where the red light cameras are a lot. I have never, nor has anyone I know ever gotten a ticket from one of these cameras. So if you are TRULY driving safe and following the rules of the road you should be fine. Be as paranoid as you want, but if you get one and you are not driving the car, then maybe you shouldn&#039;t be letting other people drive your car]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cha Ching and all you others here that think you get one just for  being on the road. I drive down the roads of Bremerton where the red light cameras are a lot. I have never, nor has anyone I know ever gotten a ticket from one of these cameras. So if you are TRULY driving safe and following the rules of the road you should be fine. Be as paranoid as you want, but if you get one and you are not driving the car, then maybe you shouldn&#8217;t be letting other people drive your car</p>
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		<title>By: Coco1</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1793</link>
		<dc:creator>Coco1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, I have seen cops at the Silverdale Way / Bucklin Hill intersection several times (they live right there) and I have never seen them go after a red light runner.  I&#039;m not saying it has never happened, but I&#039;ve never seen it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I have seen cops at the Silverdale Way / Bucklin Hill intersection several times (they live right there) and I have never seen them go after a red light runner.  I&#8217;m not saying it has never happened, but I&#8217;ve never seen it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo Fourthright</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo Fourthright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Robin in Manette: I see you&#039;re living in your socialist utopian fantasy world again. 35 years of traffic light cameras? Really? NEWS FLASH: they have only been in place for 5ish years or so. So you have been imagining them for the better part of 30 years. FYI; Elsie&#039;s in Silverdale closed up a few years back too.

Also the government doesn&#039;t have rights, the people do. Most people seem upset at the cameras not because we don&#039;t like the tickets but because local government blatantly lies about their true purpose. I drive a huge truck and would rather play bumper cars than be lied to and spied on. Government in this community, state and country needs a hard reset.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robin in Manette: I see you&#8217;re living in your socialist utopian fantasy world again. 35 years of traffic light cameras? Really? NEWS FLASH: they have only been in place for 5ish years or so. So you have been imagining them for the better part of 30 years. FYI; Elsie&#8217;s in Silverdale closed up a few years back too.</p>
<p>Also the government doesn&#8217;t have rights, the people do. Most people seem upset at the cameras not because we don&#8217;t like the tickets but because local government blatantly lies about their true purpose. I drive a huge truck and would rather play bumper cars than be lied to and spied on. Government in this community, state and country needs a hard reset.</p>
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		<title>By: Cha Ching</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1791</link>
		<dc:creator>Cha Ching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, here is the link to the judge who beat his automated infraction ticket.
http://tdn.com/news/local/retired-judge-s-traffic-camera-ticket-tossed/article_35631bf0-bb3a-11e1-a5d4-001a4bcf887a.html
From what I gather, he argued it was unconstitutional for the owner of the vehicle to have to prove they were not the driver. It got tossed because they can&#039;t enforce the same law differently, like in Bremerton where they treat running a Redflex  light as a parking infraction but if you are pulled over by a police then it is considered a moving violation and goes on your driving record and your license would be taken away if you kept running the light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, here is the link to the judge who beat his automated infraction ticket.<br />
<a href="http://tdn.com/news/local/retired-judge-s-traffic-camera-ticket-tossed/article_35631bf0-bb3a-11e1-a5d4-001a4bcf887a.html" rel="nofollow">http://tdn.com/news/local/retired-judge-s-traffic-camera-ticket-tossed/article_35631bf0-bb3a-11e1-a5d4-001a4bcf887a.html</a><br />
From what I gather, he argued it was unconstitutional for the owner of the vehicle to have to prove they were not the driver. It got tossed because they can&#8217;t enforce the same law differently, like in Bremerton where they treat running a Redflex  light as a parking infraction but if you are pulled over by a police then it is considered a moving violation and goes on your driving record and your license would be taken away if you kept running the light.</p>
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		<title>By: Cha Ching</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>Cha Ching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robin aren&#039;t you on the Bremerton parking committee? So why is it  running a red light considered a parking infraction and does not affect your driving record? So why is it a written policy that an off duty law enforcement agent will not receive a &quot;red light parking Infraction&quot; if he blasts thru a red light? So how is it an off duty Bremerton police can sign these &quot;parking infractions&quot;, under the penalty of perjury, in the state of Arizona? Robin, if you are still involved with the parking committee maybe you should look into these matters and then maybe you will understand why people are upset about these scameras. If you are really concerned about RedLight runners would you not want an actual cop patrolling the intersection, instead of an automated company in Arizona?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin aren&#8217;t you on the Bremerton parking committee? So why is it  running a red light considered a parking infraction and does not affect your driving record? So why is it a written policy that an off duty law enforcement agent will not receive a &#8220;red light parking Infraction&#8221; if he blasts thru a red light? So how is it an off duty Bremerton police can sign these &#8220;parking infractions&#8221;, under the penalty of perjury, in the state of Arizona? Robin, if you are still involved with the parking committee maybe you should look into these matters and then maybe you will understand why people are upset about these scameras. If you are really concerned about RedLight runners would you not want an actual cop patrolling the intersection, instead of an automated company in Arizona?</p>
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		<title>By: Robin in Manette</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/commute/2012/08/06/red-light-cameras-saving-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-1788</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin in Manette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 15:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could care less what the studies show.  I&#039;ve driven through several intersections that sport red light cameras in Bremerton on a daily basis for nearly 35 years.  Those intersections are safer with the cameras.  I see fewer people running the lights.  I&#039;m sold, quit yer bitching, I help pay for those roads and you don&#039;t have a right to run the light and put the rest of us in danger.  If you don&#039;t like it, walk!  The rest of us will yield at the light so you&#039;ll be safe in the crosswalk now.

Bottom line, your personal rights don&#039;t trump mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could care less what the studies show.  I&#8217;ve driven through several intersections that sport red light cameras in Bremerton on a daily basis for nearly 35 years.  Those intersections are safer with the cameras.  I see fewer people running the lights.  I&#8217;m sold, quit yer bitching, I help pay for those roads and you don&#8217;t have a right to run the light and put the rest of us in danger.  If you don&#8217;t like it, walk!  The rest of us will yield at the light so you&#8217;ll be safe in the crosswalk now.</p>
<p>Bottom line, your personal rights don&#8217;t trump mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 07:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few days ago there was story about a Judge who beat red-light camera ticket ona technicality. Only problem, the story didnt say what the technicality was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days ago there was story about a Judge who beat red-light camera ticket ona technicality. Only problem, the story didnt say what the technicality was.</p>
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