Piggybacking Part II

You may have read the earlier entry on “piggybacking” wireless. You may also have read the story we ran about it on Sunday. On Rich Passage, I made the trip and kept hitting refresh to see the number of available networks and the numbers were ample. The connections may have been weak, but I could pick up signals.

Today, we have a story in our national section from the Washington Post that goes into why network owners should secure their networks.

30 thoughts on “Piggybacking Part II

  1. Overall I thought it was a well done article. An open Wifi router allows people to access the internet from it but not necessarily to gain access to your files or local network. I think your garbage can and mailbox are a bigger threat to your personal information safety than an open Wifi router.

  2. Joshua W. Brown’s “frugality” came about because he could “scab” off his neighbors at 1015 Perry. Even if everyone does it — the fact is this is our highest elected county official using theft of services for the 27 nights a month we was up until 3:00 a.m. working on his policy wonk study and Churchillian speeches.

    Brown testified in a gloating moment that he came back from California to begin his political journey with $100K in the bank. And he can’t even pay for his dial-up ($10 per month) or other high-speed options.

    Read the transcript of what Brown said. It is wild to think this is our sitting KC Commissioner. Oy Vey !!

  3. Did a Google search and it appears the California Legislature is dealing with this issue . Looks like though there is no penalty unless the signal is blocked . Comcast is the folks I would contact for their opinion if I was doing a story ..

    I know WSF charges quite a bit now for this service .

    If Josh Brown was not a Commissioner it would have been a non issue .

  4. Mick — however Josh Brown is a sitting Commissioner who just completed a trial where a substantial part of his silly defense was his “frugality.” Frugality based on theft is theft nontheless.

  5. How many of you out there are using “free” wireless?

    As long as the neighbors are not adversely impacted, I don’t understand why anyone is concerned about it.

    I’m sure that we are all hoping that Commissioner Brown takes the same approach to Kitsap County’s resources as he does to his own. If he can find a way to save the taxpayers some money, I think we will all be quite grateful!

  6. Steve — in putting together some court papers and using your blog, I found one of your references is incorrect. In quoting Bermant on Brown’s “scabbing” or piggybacking off his dupe neighbors, you linke to Port Orchard Independent. In fact the article you quote from is the Bremerton Patriot. You have the author correct but any search for the article under Port Orchard paper will not get you the reference you provide.

    JMO

  7. Stealing is theft. He knowing stole a resource other folks paid for for his own benefit.
    I am a taxpayer too. Mr. Brown’s casual disregard for other folk’s rights does not compute that ‘he’ will look after the district he was elected to protect.
    He will sway with the easiest breeze…he cannot stand up for the ‘right’ thing…he clearly, apparently, does not know what the ‘right’ thing is – other than take care of his own pocketbook first…
    Sharon O’Hara

  8. I used free open Wifi at my old Bremerton apartment before I got my cable modem then I provided open Wifi after that and never had any problems.

    James you seriously need to find a new obsession. This is not a mentally healthy use of your time and efforts. Plus once your bogus voter registration challenge is thrown out you are going to be open to being sued under the 1965 Voting Rights act.

  9. Linda Garbriel — you stated about Brown’s theft of services: “I’m sure that we are all hoping that Commissioner Brown takes the same approach to Kitsap County’s resources as he does to his own. If he can find a way to save the taxpayers some money, I think we will all be quite grateful!”

    So if Brown can get more land for the taxpayers by illegal confiscating property from individuals without paying for the “taking” must also be sound behavior to you. Brown had $100K in the bank and he was stealing services to save him money !!

    We live in an Alice in Wonderland world where theft is cited as great CV for higher office.

    I have seen lame defenses of theft but this is toward the fringe. I guess Brown’s comandeering his former teacher’s address and thereby not having to pay for rent also is an example of stellar qualities for our elected official.

  10. Linda Garbriel — you stated about Brown’s theft of services: “I’m sure that we are all hoping that Commissioner Brown takes the same approach to Kitsap County’s resources as he does to his own. If he can find a way to save the taxpayers some money, I think we will all be quite grateful!”

    So if Brown can get more land for the taxpayers by illegal confiscating property from individuals without paying for the “taking” must also be sound behavior to you. Brown had $100K in the bank and he was stealing services to save him money !!

    We live in an Alice in Wonderland world where theft is cited as great CV for higher office.

    I have seen lame defenses of theft but this is toward the fringe. I guess Brown’s comandeering his former teacher’s address and thereby not having to pay for rent also is an example of stellar qualities for our elected official.

  11. Olsen, your frenzied accusations against Brown are so disjointed, it seems nothing short of a public lynching would appease you.

    Peppering your claims with sound logic periodically would be a nice change so the less rabid can follow your train of thought.

  12. Hey, Mark — try following the issue of Brown frugality: $100K in his bank and he can’t spring to pay for computer access in his bachelor pad. Is that complex, Mark? We are not talking about a homeless man stealing a bagel to keep from starving. We are talking about a privledged white Berkley college graduate stealing services. Think about it and hold the spin.

    Same comments for the devotee Metcalf. Voting Rights Act of . . . earth to Jacob !!!

  13. Projecting to the first day of April, I can hear on National Public Radio (NPR), or was in in a Charlie Bermant article, that a book is forthcoming: The XXX-Generation Frugality for Idiots by Josh Brown. Chapters to include a) how to cut your Wi-Fi cost to zero b) how to establish residency and not even have to move c) how to use a futon as a bed/desk/stage prop. I can’t wait to see the review of the Frugality for Idiots by the Kitsap Sun.

    I can see the glowing book cover kudos on the value of the philosophy from Congressman Dicks, Mayors Bozeman, Quade, Kordonovy and other civic leaders.

    Book signing can be at 1015 Perry, room 204.

    The excitement is building for a new hero.

  14. Shogun/Olslen,

    Get over the wireless thing. It’s so peripheral.

    There are more than 40,000 public access points in the country, many of them free. Computer users are logging on in coffee shops, hotel rooms, library parking lots, etc.

    Wireless networks are being installed by many local governments, intentionally available to everyone in the vicinity.

    People who travel frequently become used to using their laptops where and when they have time, rather than having to plug into a cable or a telephone line.

    After using the internet freely in many public places, it seems quite natural for a user to look for a “hot spot” near home, too. It is no more stealing than is reading a newspaper’s front page when seated across from someone who has opened it to read the inside.

    Users who wish not to share with others will want to secure their networks. However, it is not likely that they would notice any difference after installing security, unless their neighbors have been loading big files (pictures) rather than just email.

  15. Linda, you tell your “man” to hold his head high. Everybody does it — oy vey, what’s the big deal?

    Class C felony for false voter registration — is that also a nothing to Linda? Can you see a pattern in ethics with JWB? If not — look within.

    Hold the spin.

  16. Well I know one thing , from the comments supporting Josh Brown I see quite a shallow community that he lives in . The support comes from all politcal supporters , basically this person has no friends made in Central Kitsap because of his personel interests. Only political friends are not exactly healthy in my opinion for a representative of , for and by the people . .

    Josh can go his own way . But if he bases his values in what political supporters base their friendship and hate on , he is going to be one lonely man .

  17. Olsen: Your vendetta against Brown is ridiculous. Now you’re going after him because he has the wisdom to use the wireless service that his neighbors aren’t smart enough to secure? Would you have a problem with him if he parked outside any of our libraries and used their wireless signal? You know, the one he pays for with his tax dollars?

    Jacob: Sadly, you’re wrong. If your box is on, and you’re broadcasting an unsecured wireless signal, all information stored on your computer is at risk.

  18. “and you’re broadcasting an unsecured wireless signal, all information stored on your computer is at risk.”

    I am running Mac OSX 10.4 with harddrive encryption enabled and a tight firewall and all the updates. I am pretty confident in using an open Wifi spot. Not everyone runs Windows you know.

  19. Sure. But that’s you. Most people do, in fact, use Windows. So perhaps your personal data isn’t at risk (although I’ve not researched Macs enough to know, other than listening to the claims of Mac users), your case is atypical.

  20. I really do not think piggy backing is a big deal Jim .

    I don’t do it . Never even thought of it.

    I would think Comcast or the folks paying for the service would be the ones who should be asked about this .. Do they see it as alarge problem in the course of their business?
    Do Restaurants who offer free internet access pay a hiher fee then residential ?

    I can see why they would be upset , Mr. Brown used the service , in this case for a political campaign .
    Thus Comcast would feel his campigh funds should have gone to pay for their service . Cheating them out of a paying customer .
    Especially if you are piggy backing on a daily basis ? If he lived there , which I guess he did ?

    I wish the article went to the providers of the service and got their take .

    If this was not such an important and heated trial , I would never have even thought of this as an issue though .

    I will be curious to Josh Brown’s electric bills say in two years from now though .

  21. Mick — you tell “Jim” that “piggybacking” is not big of a deal. You, know, Mick, it reminds me of the other euphemisms we as a society have all to quickly adopted. What do you mean theft, all it is a “five-finger discount.” What’s this big deal about 3 million abortions, when really it is just a case of minor elective surgery — a simple choice.

    We have espionage and treasonous release to top-secret information called by the press “news gathering.”

    We have desertion and behavior unbecoming a US Army officer called by the officer and his apologists “patriotism.”

    Back to Commissioner Brown’s theft of services issue: you probably were busy making a living and did not attend the trial. Joshua testified very clearly in direct testimony that he returned to run for office with $100K in the bank. This information was very carefully packaged for Judge Verser to let him see how industrious Brown was. Yet less than a hour later Brown is admitting he was stealing access to his internet from his neighbors. Brown had the ability to pay and did not and this was not a one-time matter. Brown testified — if believed — that he was in his apartment until 2 a.m. every morning working on solving world hunger, Churchillian speeches his campaign for 27 days a month for 6 months. What was preventing Brown from paying the $29.00 per month for hi-speed access or $9.00 for dial-up.

    When we as a people use language to hide and evade the truth, that is dangerous. In short order we see “taking of property rights” is being green. We see chasing away business and local healthy development becomes “stopping corporate profits.”

    Piggybacking is just a cheap euphemism for stealing. Let’s stop with the stupid sugar coating and the lame excuses that “everyone does it.” The voters selected not “everyone” to the commissioner position but an individual called JWB. The voters have a right to ask why JWB can’t pay his own way like all the other honest people try to do day in and day out.

  22. Mick Sheldon is right. Piggybacking isn’t that big a deal. It’s about as much of a “crime” as picking up a newspaper on an empty seat on a bus.

    This isn’t about “theft” at all. If Josh Brown had an “R” behind his name instead of a “D” the lynch mob in here would be praising him to high heaven for being frugal. What a bunch of hypocritical sore losers.

    But, hey, keep it up! You’re just showing more and more people how pitiful the Kitsap Republican Party has become. Keep on using up county resources by taking people to court for no reason and eventually you’ll be holding your county convention in a broom closet somewhere.

  23. Liberal Curmudgeon — false voter registion (Fitzwater Lane) equals “no reason” to you!! Oh, that’s right, your a liberal Democrat where a voter fraud among consenting adults is condoned, if not encouraged. Boy, oh, boy !!.

    As to a broom closet, that will be the closet containing the brooms sweeping out the local Politburo.

    Sorry I can’t agree with you theft is evidence of fiscal responsibility. You may think the terms are interchangeable but I don’t. And “piggybacking” is a stale euphemism that conceals an unnecessary theft since JWB had $100K in his piggy bank and the time he was hitting on his neighbors. And to think JWB didn’t have the common decency to do a “Howdy neighbor to any of is Perry Avenue neighbors. Now that’s downright rude, especially for a politico.

  24. When a 26 year old political neophite CLOBBERS the best candidate your party can offer, that ought to be a wakeup call that your party needs to connect better with the moderates and independents in this county. But instead of that, you’re showing yourself to be hateful, vengeful, sore losers. And ever time you guys target the DULY ELECTED County Commissioner, you prove it to more and more people.

    Way to go! Keep on going with it! Keep driving those voters away!

  25. Liberal C. — trust me – I am awake. I would suggest you too wake up and smell the corruption in your own kitchen.

    Liberal C. — are you telling me you are a registered voter?

  26. Yes, I’m a registered voter. I haven’t missed an election since 1968.

    About 30 years ago, I had made arrangements to move. Thinking I was being efficient, I changed my voter registration in advance of the actual move to my new addresss. Shortly after I submitted the new registration, I changed my mind about moving. So I re-registered at my current address. Was I guilty of fraud?

    I have a friend who’s an aeronautical engineer. He was working in Renton at Boeing on a temporary contract, which was about to expire. Thinking that his contract wouldn’t be renewed and he was about to move back home, he changed his voter registration to his home state. The very next day after he mailed his registration, Boeing extended his contract. He re-registered in Renton. Is he guilty of fraud?

    The answer is that neither myself nor my friend were guilty of anything. And neither is Josh Brown. Face facts – you’re just a Brown-hater.

  27. Keep it up, Shogun. Maybe you can shrink the Pierce County Republican Party while you’re at it! Please, take your dog and pony show into EVERY county!

  28. Liberal Curmudgeon — what does your experience or your engineer friend have to do with Brown’s Class C Felony re Fitzwater. Brown never said it was a mistake — that would be too subtle. He said he had the right to use the address — only problem was his alibi did not perjure herself and agree the alibi was valid.

    Read the transcript, read the news reports, consult your Ouji board, do something other than making excuses for JWB.

    $100K in his piggy bank and all he could do was hijack Wi-Fi and try to squirrel a false address rather than simply moving into any of hundreds of apartments in Bremerton that would have qualified for residency.

    You are correct, I don’t care for voter fraud. You may want to excuse, praise it or ignore it. Fine.

    Did you read that great letter from the Democrat who said that Brown’s teacher owed him undying fidelity and therefore should have lied? What a wild letter. The author of that letter makes you seem reasonable — what a thought.

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