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	<description>Ric Hallock blogs about being a family man dealing with life in and around Gig Harbor.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Paying Tribute to an Umpire, a Volunteer — a Dad by Christina</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/are-we-there-yet/2011/04/21/paying-tribute-to-an-umpire-a-volunteer-%e2%80%94-a-dad/comment-page-1/#comment-711</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paying Tribute to an Umpire, a Volunteer — a Dad by jack stonestreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack stonestreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent article on one who cared</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent article on one who cared</p>
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		<title>Comment on Be Wary of Barely Clad Tattoo-touting Coffee Sirens by Sharon O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 01:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe ALL such coffee places should offer nude/semi-nude waitresses in order to end the giggle, wink, giggle complex from kids and their dads about the feminine form in strange places.

The nude/semi-nude girls apparently have one thing to offer and they&#039;re doing it.  Really good coffee, though, shouldn&#039;t be expected.
Just the giggle, wink, giggle girls and something hot in a cup.
Sharon O&#039;Hara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe ALL such coffee places should offer nude/semi-nude waitresses in order to end the giggle, wink, giggle complex from kids and their dads about the feminine form in strange places.</p>
<p>The nude/semi-nude girls apparently have one thing to offer and they&#8217;re doing it.  Really good coffee, though, shouldn&#8217;t be expected.<br />
Just the giggle, wink, giggle girls and something hot in a cup.<br />
Sharon O&#8217;Hara</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shameless, Blatant Plug (for a Worthy Cause) by Sharon O'Hara</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/are-we-there-yet/2011/02/17/shameless-blatant-plug-for-a-worthy-cause/comment-page-1/#comment-707</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good plug for a good reason, supporting the  Peninsula Youth Orchestra.
Thanks for the notice.
Sharon O&#039;Hara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good plug for a good reason, supporting the  Peninsula Youth Orchestra.<br />
Thanks for the notice.<br />
Sharon O&#8217;Hara</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Keep Muttering, &#8216;I&#8217;m Too Old for This&#8217; by Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For someone who hasn&#039;t even reached the half-century mark, old age is just in your mind. And you seem to be admitting that in a subtle way, if I may read between the lines. I suggest you spend a few more years continuing to fight the notion that you are old -- especially when your &quot;bride&quot; is still in her 30s. Shouldn&#039;t you want to still impress her with your manliness and studly ways? And may I mention more than half the softball team is older than you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For someone who hasn&#8217;t even reached the half-century mark, old age is just in your mind. And you seem to be admitting that in a subtle way, if I may read between the lines. I suggest you spend a few more years continuing to fight the notion that you are old &#8212; especially when your &#8220;bride&#8221; is still in her 30s. Shouldn&#8217;t you want to still impress her with your manliness and studly ways? And may I mention more than half the softball team is older than you?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Online Commentary: It&#8217;s a Jungle in There by BlueLight</title>
		<link>http://pugetsoundblogs.com/are-we-there-yet/2010/04/26/online-commentary-its-a-jungle-in-there/comment-page-1/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueLight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 16:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, what IS an ethical editor to do?

Let&#039;s see... didn&#039;t one of the Sun&#039;s previous editors 1) use his position to push a controversial Port project (SEED) 2) take a course in &quot;sustainability&quot; and, then 3) go to work for that very governmental agency he promoted as editor?

I would say that is what an ethical editor should NOT do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, what IS an ethical editor to do?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230; didn&#8217;t one of the Sun&#8217;s previous editors 1) use his position to push a controversial Port project (SEED) 2) take a course in &#8220;sustainability&#8221; and, then 3) go to work for that very governmental agency he promoted as editor?</p>
<p>I would say that is what an ethical editor should NOT do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Online Commentary: It&#8217;s a Jungle in There by Roger Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 03:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many years ago I remember my grandfather sitting by and old pot belly stove with 5 or 6 other &quot;oldtimers&quot; discussing the latest goings on in our little West by god Virgina town.  I have sat in coffee shops, bars, restaurants, and numerous public venues all over the world.

When people gather, they talk.  They discuss the latest news or happenings in the area.  They talk politics, religion, work, and just about any subject you can come up with and some that would surprise you.  The ability to comment on and article or news story is just the latest version of the pot belly stove talks of years ago.  The only thing added is some people are afraid of making their opinions known.  Something about being afraid of showing yourself a fool, then opening your mouth and proving it makes it easier to show yourself a fool when no one knows it is you.

Commenting, blogging, and following the news or story line on a computer is how the younger generation is learning to live in our society.  What needs to change is how we use and interact with the printed newspaper that is also available on line.  If the Sun and other print media does not adapt, they will go the way of the old pot belly stove discussions and just be a footnote in history.  If you want to keep the story on line on track, then do so.  It is your media format and you are the voice.  If it is only monitored 2 or 3 times a week or if it seems to be an afterthought and not seriously taken then abuse will occur.  Just like in real life when one particular person wants all the attention or that other person who wants be the one to decide where the conversation will flow because they know best.

You may learn many things about your community and the people living here.  The trick is to make sure this is not your only source and to search and find the truth yourself and acknowledging that the truth has as many sides as there are people involved.

I have heard the statement, &#039;my truth is not your truth&#039; used to justify a particular point.  So, yes, we are our own worst enemy.
Roger Gay
South Kitsap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago I remember my grandfather sitting by and old pot belly stove with 5 or 6 other &#8220;oldtimers&#8221; discussing the latest goings on in our little West by god Virgina town.  I have sat in coffee shops, bars, restaurants, and numerous public venues all over the world.</p>
<p>When people gather, they talk.  They discuss the latest news or happenings in the area.  They talk politics, religion, work, and just about any subject you can come up with and some that would surprise you.  The ability to comment on and article or news story is just the latest version of the pot belly stove talks of years ago.  The only thing added is some people are afraid of making their opinions known.  Something about being afraid of showing yourself a fool, then opening your mouth and proving it makes it easier to show yourself a fool when no one knows it is you.</p>
<p>Commenting, blogging, and following the news or story line on a computer is how the younger generation is learning to live in our society.  What needs to change is how we use and interact with the printed newspaper that is also available on line.  If the Sun and other print media does not adapt, they will go the way of the old pot belly stove discussions and just be a footnote in history.  If you want to keep the story on line on track, then do so.  It is your media format and you are the voice.  If it is only monitored 2 or 3 times a week or if it seems to be an afterthought and not seriously taken then abuse will occur.  Just like in real life when one particular person wants all the attention or that other person who wants be the one to decide where the conversation will flow because they know best.</p>
<p>You may learn many things about your community and the people living here.  The trick is to make sure this is not your only source and to search and find the truth yourself and acknowledging that the truth has as many sides as there are people involved.</p>
<p>I have heard the statement, &#8216;my truth is not your truth&#8217; used to justify a particular point.  So, yes, we are our own worst enemy.<br />
Roger Gay<br />
South Kitsap</p>
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		<title>Comment on Online Commentary: It&#8217;s a Jungle in There by Steven M Nielson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven M Nielson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ric - We have evolved, it is true... and the people want to feel like their voice is being heard.  The eMedia outlets who build a fan base around the ability to add to the story is one who survives the future.  If a media outlet is concerned about what is being written, budgets have to be changed and online editors need to be prioritized.  We live in a real-time world, and longing for the days of a 24 hour news cycle is like longing for the good ol&#039; days of horse and buggy.  Our communication medium adapts, you must also adapt.

That being said, there is a level of irresponsibility associated with trolls.  However, one man&#039;s troll is another man&#039;s freedom fighter.  They may believe that their opinion is valid, relevant, and even warranted... however, the writer, editor, and others may feel differently.  No one likes to see their work, their art, criticized or &#039;vandalized&#039;... but it is the new reality.  Some trolls have agendas, some are bored, others simply enjoy hiding in anonymity and ranting without consequence... the perils of truly free speech.

But then again, we are so rarely free, now, that when given the opportunity at freedom we do not know how to act civilly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ric &#8211; We have evolved, it is true&#8230; and the people want to feel like their voice is being heard.  The eMedia outlets who build a fan base around the ability to add to the story is one who survives the future.  If a media outlet is concerned about what is being written, budgets have to be changed and online editors need to be prioritized.  We live in a real-time world, and longing for the days of a 24 hour news cycle is like longing for the good ol&#8217; days of horse and buggy.  Our communication medium adapts, you must also adapt.</p>
<p>That being said, there is a level of irresponsibility associated with trolls.  However, one man&#8217;s troll is another man&#8217;s freedom fighter.  They may believe that their opinion is valid, relevant, and even warranted&#8230; however, the writer, editor, and others may feel differently.  No one likes to see their work, their art, criticized or &#8216;vandalized&#8217;&#8230; but it is the new reality.  Some trolls have agendas, some are bored, others simply enjoy hiding in anonymity and ranting without consequence&#8230; the perils of truly free speech.</p>
<p>But then again, we are so rarely free, now, that when given the opportunity at freedom we do not know how to act civilly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Online Commentary: It&#8217;s a Jungle in There by Sharon O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Allowing comments on stories is like running herd over a freak show; while pulling the comment threads is counter to the ideal of community support and responsible journalism....&quot;

What&#039;s the solution then?  
Wow.  Do you mean to say the readers of reported stories are freaks...or just the readers who respond to the story are the freaks from a freak show?

Sharon O&#039;Hara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Allowing comments on stories is like running herd over a freak show; while pulling the comment threads is counter to the ideal of community support and responsible journalism&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the solution then?<br />
Wow.  Do you mean to say the readers of reported stories are freaks&#8230;or just the readers who respond to the story are the freaks from a freak show?</p>
<p>Sharon O&#8217;Hara</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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